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Author Topic: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?  (Read 936 times)

Offline RoyalGSXR23

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Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« on: 09/08/09 04:54PM »
Ive been practicing some stand up wheelies just bouncing them up in first. I can get em up after about 3 tries but once it does get up I can ride it very long. This is a power wheelie though. Does anyone have any tips on how to wheelie off the clutch it beens like if you pop the clutch standing up you dont have much control over your body. Im scared ill pop the clutch and it will throw me back. Sitting down and popping the clutch is easier seeing as though you have the tank to squeeze on to.

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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #1 on: 09/09/09 07:33PM »
From what I understand, you kinda stand up as the front end comes up. So basically you start off sitting down, then stand. Have you tried staggereds yet?

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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #2 on: 09/09/09 09:58PM »
nope last night was my first time ever doing a stand up. Ill try staggered another day. But, thanks for the advice ill give it another go.

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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #3 on: 09/09/09 10:14PM »
Come to bike night and you'll meet a few guys who basically do just staggereds right now. Or find me on facebook, zach rouslin. introduce you to a few guys who practice every day here in town.
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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #4 on: 09/10/09 03:14PM »
Mike, from watching the guys here and trying it myself you start in 2nd gear, put your left foot back on the rear peg  pull the clutch in rev the bike up to about 5/6 drop the clutch and gas it and it will come up... just cover the rear brake with your right foot just incase!
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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #5 on: 09/10/09 03:36PM »
For the record: I hate clutching up. That's the freakiest feeling in the world.
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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #6 on: 09/10/09 04:41PM »
it takes a lot of faness...

For the longest time, I would clutch wheelies (in 2nd gear) sitting down and they wouldn't come up. It takes a lot of throttle control and clutch control to hit the right spot. If you redline it (in 2nd gear) and simply pop the clutch, you won't wheelie worth a crap. If you dont rev it enough, you won't wheelie worth a crap. If you are going too fast, even if you clutch it right, you won't wheelie worth a crap. If you are going too slow, you won't wheelie worth a crap.

I eventually found that around 40-50 mph, I could consistantly clutch perfect wheelies. After much practise, I can wheelie a wide variety of speeds now, but initially, I practised/learned at 45mph.

It also helps to slide your butt back til it hits the passenger seat.

Then after you get them up, you can work on your balance. Also, if you are ACCELLERATING, it is easier to wheelie, rather than riding a constant 45mph.

Now -- for the balance. If you clutch a wheelie, your bike is (for example) 45mph and 6000 rpms. (idk what it would actually be but w/e). So when you wheelie, your motor drops back down to 8-10k rpms and its easier to balance because your motor isn't tapping off the REV limiter.
If you power-on wheelie, or jump/bounce your front wheel up, 599cc bikes have to be STRUNG OUT, or 60 tooth geared, to accomplish this. So once you do it, you are in the redline range, and a small touch of the throttle will effect your balance a lot more --than if you were at a lower RPM.

Sitting vs. standing -- personal preference. That's about all I can say. Some people are more comfortable standing, it comes easier for them. Some people -- like me -- can't clutch as well while standing. While standing, you look through your windshield to see where you are going, while sitting, you look around the side of your bike --which at first will cause you to glide to the right.

Where is pink Gixxer dude when you need him? He's our resident stunter. Now he's got a green 636 like me...

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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #7 on: 09/10/09 04:45PM »
Lol our resident stunter recently moved out on his own, I'm sure he's laying on the couch nursing last nights hangover.....he also painted the 636 pink lol
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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #8 on: 09/10/09 04:57PM »
painted that pink too huh? whatever works for ya i guess...

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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #9 on: 09/10/09 05:00PM »
Personally I like it, I wanted to powdercoat my old stunt BMX bike pink when I was a kid, something different for sure lol
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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #10 on: 09/11/09 12:51PM »
Haha! Rob is right, 2nd gear sit-downs are the easiest place to start. Get used to the rythem and how it feels. Then start workin on 1st gear(invest in race rails or a cage, sick innovations is the best for the$), do not learn with powering it up in first, can have very bad consiquences!! (Ask mark) eventually u'll get it. Just stay at it.. Lemmie kno how ya doin.
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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #11 on: 09/16/09 05:27PM »
Haha yeh do not try to learn rythem with power on wheelies! i've definately learned this the hard way too hahahahaha

you dont wanna be trying to balance something carefully -- with a crotch rocket on the rev limiter!

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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #12 on: 11/08/09 10:56PM »
Damn I guess im all backwards then... I can only power up in first
just load the front then give it a little gas and you can go up or down just by moving the T
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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #13 on: 11/09/09 12:14AM »
Dr. D, you been practicing your wheelies? Made any more improvements with them?

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Re: Stand up wheelies off the clutch?
« Reply #14 on: 11/18/09 07:45PM »
Yea, I have a bit but just power ups in First. I can do it on the fly pretty easy now! 1st. gear go let off and then pull back a bit on the handle and monitor where i am and match the gas to that.
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